Talk:Vernon Keough

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Keogh or Keough? Both seem to be in use. Drutt (talk) 00:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

(Another vet)

I wish to add to your list of WW2 heroes, my darling Australian Uncle, Flying Officer Ronald George Dawson, who was maybe even shorter than Vernon Keogh. He was all of 5'4" and was shot down over Copenhagen, Denmark whilst bombing the Gestapo HQ at Shellhouse, on March 21st 1945 (his body and the body of his navigator Fergie Murray were never recovered. He had spent some time with the RAF 23rd Squadron, but was with the RAAF 464 when he perished. He was never given the medals or tributes from his Country that he truly deserved, probably because he was (as his pommie friends most politely put it) no respecter of persons in authority and thought everybody "Pommies", except we his mates. I have been trying for about five years to get his story out there, with no success. Any ideas would be gratefully received.

Respectfully yours
Cherie Daniel (nee Dawson)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.131.67.78 (talk) 12:47, 12 February 2011‎

   Ms. Daniel, you are owed an apology for the delay before this reply. Part of that reflects our being a volunteer information re-organizing project, rather than an institution doing independent research.
   (I note the initial RAF service, which IIRC indicates being a step ahead of his country's gov't in committing to the war effort; IMO my own father was at least a step or two behind him, by being only in Midshipman school for the USNR at the time of Pearl Harbor.)
   Our "notability" standard reflects primarily the criterion of a "reliable source", in the sense of previous publication of the info we draw on, by an established source whose reputation for verifying what they publish can be checked. For instance, in this case there may have been an obituary or memorial article in a British or Australian periodical, or citations or a service record (especially if available to an institution qualified and willing to assess their authenticity). Likewise, there may be, say, a squadron history recording some of his cause of notability, and WP using it as a source and reference could give that information more visibility.
   Wiki-prose involves formatting methods that often seem tricky to potential contributors, but volunteers pretty regularly jump onto the "prettying up" task when otherwise usable prose shows up. When you can cite a source, you could click on this: Ronald George Dawson, start typing in the "Editing Ronald George Dawson" box that opens up, and click on the "button" labelled "Save page", by the bottom of the box, when you've gone as far as you care to. (You might want to try to take stylistic hints from existing biographies, especially those of combat pilots whose 69 bio articles are linked (directly, or one more link away) via Category:Australian World War II pilots. If you also type, at the very bottom of your article, [[, then copy-and-paste (or type verbatim) those same blue letters and colon, from "C" thru "s", then type ]], it is likely to help get the attention of experienced Wikipedia editors who already have an active interest in such bios.)
   If i can help further, the best way to communicate with me is clicking on this link to my "talk" page, then on the + sign to the right of "Edit", then typing a message in the box that results, and clicking on "Save".
--Jerzy•t 09:54, 21 March 2015 (UTC)